bcook: *rushes in out of the rain* Omo! omo! I wanna comment! not to late?
JoAnne: Trust us... this show is worth the wait. And be careful with the subs, because they're still all being ripped from DSS and wayyyyy too early. Go to the source!
bcook: A woman with values. If I came across Tae-Soo bleeding outside my door I'd call 911 then take a picture. Coz ... you know... Tae-Soo
JoAnne: I'd totally convince myself I could heal him at home. And then he'd be touched by my tender kindness and I'd touch his hard torso. You know, to tend the wound.
bcook: Psycho Kid is hot! and Psycho! and now I have to re-examine my values because no way should I find Psycho Kid hot.
JoAnne: Psycho Kid is exceptionally observant and still, which is why you think he's creepy. He's not creepy. He's very sad, to me.
bcook: He's like a cuddly bear with fists of steel. I think I like his character best.
JoAnne: I wonder if he'd let us call him Woong-ah, or Chulie. I do love them all for different reasons.
Well ok some of the reasons are the same.
bcook: He was looking right at me! I love when they break the 4th wall. I felt guilty coz erm yeah... I'm kind having fun. PDnim, cinematographernim... nomu kamasmida *deep 90 degree bow*
JoAnne: Bad Dad is actually the creepiest LOOKING one, although I do suspect that the Police Commissioner will show some levels of creep that might surprise us.
JoAnne: He is very swoony. Especially later when his face gets all boyish. *dies*
bcook: I totally flashed back to the prison bus when the detective smirked and said no. hehe. You shouldn't do that to Tae-soo
JoAnne: Well then we're fine, because I'd be babbling yes to everything.
JoAnne: I love how betrayed/disgusted Woong Chul is by what he views as Tae Soo escaping.
bcook: Fatal weakness does not equal death!!? Does it? Maybe on KBS but not OCN...right? right?
JoAnne: Oh I'd think ESPECIALLY on OCN, the Overly Cruel Network.
(I think it's just that use when it's a sign of respect, not an actual teacher in this case...although perhaps Tae Soo was an apprentice, who knows.) Who stays totally cool ... isn't he wondering why this guy is out of prison? Chairman says he also doesn't know where that woman is, he just sends her money from time to time. Doesn't Tae-soo trust him? No, he does not. Tae-soo demands to know everything about her, where she lives, how she is doing, how her kid is doing, etc.
JoAnne: This is a deeply fatal weakness, Kakashi. Oh dear. You know she's the reason he went into prison in the first place, somehow. Bad Guy trying to atone because he's discovered hope by finding and falling for a kind woman? Dead. (And that's why Oppa lived in WAML because she tried to be kind but didn't always succeed.)
bcook: I don't unnerstand. If Teacher tried to kill him, why encourage him to have a heart as it were? (maybe he means figuratively as in it was Teacher who sent him on the job that got him stabbed).
JoAnne: That's how I'm looking at it, and I'm wondering about him saying that Tae Soo went to jail because he was scared. I do not think that was the case at all, unless he was scared that she'd be hurt if he DIDN'T go.
bcook: Bitch slapped I thought. Open handed slaps are so insulting.
JoAnne: Come on, he has on the anklet. They should know he wasn't trying to get away.
JoAnne: *rubs hands gleefully*
The hunting dogs are set loose! They get half a day from their boss to find out something about the killer. They're in a neighborhood in which all kinds of crimes are rampant, and people commit suicide above average, too. So many deaths already ... they really cannot stomach a serial killer, in addition. Next, we get to see all three of them doing their special thing.
JoAnne: *mind wanders into interesting places*
JoAnne: Ah, come on, be besties! No! Be his big brother, Tae Soo!
bcook: Naaah...surely not. Right? That'll be too much even for this drama. Jung-moon is just so....shivers*
JoAnne: Oh I absolutely believed even before this that he killed her husband, and that it was no accident he was outside her place wounded. He either went there to see her one last time or he was there, and someone caught him. And Jung Moon, well... I don't know if he's a serial killer or not but what I see at this time is a guy who has learned that no one can be trusted, and he's using his wits to keep ahead.
JoAnne: Oh I hope our Bad Guys get sidekicks, that would be awesome!
bcook: That VP type shot tho! It was beautifully done. The night scene reflecting in his eye, he takes on the role of the killer. Very Gap Dong esque. Why, why, why can't the major channels do this?
JoAnne: Because they have audiences who aren't the right target. Cable will skew younger, more affluent, more urbane, more familiar with shows from other countries.
bcook: Which instantly makes me suspicious. Why is he sharing? What's churning around in that hot psycho head of his?
JoAnne: I really don't think he's a criminal. Or if he is, he's not in THIS mind when he does it. So while he is self-protective, he's still going to have some reactions that are different from a career criminal. And I also think he has enough faith in his superior mental abilities that sharing a bit won't give someone much of an advantage. Plus maybe, like lots of really smart guys, he can't help showing off a bit. Or even he thinks if he puts them in the right direction they can do his leg work and then he can swoop in. Of all of them, though, he doesn't seem all that interested in being out of prison.
bcook: Somebody's been watching Criminal Minds.
JoAnne: It actually has a Criminal Minds feel, this show, which is not a bad thing, because that show is exceptionally well-done. And gruesome.
JoAnne: Sure didn't take long.
bcook: ewww. Gross. But blood congeals and then smells... ew ew ew. So gross. Human beings can get so weird.
JoAnne: Dexter and his slides.
JoAnne: I like that he isn't all brawn. To do what he did, take over an entire syndicate in 25 days - that took brains. And he has really good instincts when it comes to the cases, as we will see. Now let me snuggle against him. He looks like he'd be warm.
JoAnne: Made me laugh.
bcook: Smart thinking though. If only he'd share his thoughts. How many movies/shows have you watched where it's the locksmith?
JoAnne: Umm...none that I can think of?
Goo-tak and Tae-soo are visiting one of the survivors who lives close by. Goo-tak is wondering why Tae-soo insists on accompanying him, at which Tae-soo replies it's because he needs to catch that murderer, to reduce his sentence. Why? Because he needs to protect somebody. Hm, that gets him a puzzled stare from Goo-tak. But they're already at the door and Goo-tak rings the bell.
JoAnne: Not as contradictory as it seems, I think. He went in to protect her, but new info (she's not where he thought she was and the bastard from Cruel City doesn't know exactly where she is) indicates that she's not as secure as he'd imagined. So now he needs OUT. Tae Soo-ya, are you in love? or are you a loyal guard dog? *Sobs for Shinichi all over again.*
bcook: Huh. How could she not remember him tho. Ref back to my previous comment.
JoAnne: Seriously, that's nuts. There's no way she wouldn't remember that face. VERY interesting that she was attacked by the killer, though. Was it before or after she saved Tae Soo? Because if it was after he went into jail. Well. Imagine the rage.
Goo-tak gets her to tell them what happened when she was almost killed. So horrible .... she and her daughter are asleep, when the killer comes in, wearing a rain coat. Because one drop from it hits her daughter's toe and another her face, the kid awakes and screams, awakening her mother, who starts fending off the killer. He throttles the life out of her, but the kid has run out, alarming the other neighbors. It's not quite clear how the mother got away, but she did, the killer fled. It's horrible. The poor woman cries from the memory (it was too dark to see the killer's face) and Tae-soo looks pained, oh so pained.
JoAnne: I desperately want to know about the people he killed, and why he killed them.
JoAnne: Oh my God... a competition?
JoAnne: I'm trying to figure the boy out. I really don't think he's a killer. Or rather..I don't think he WAS a killer. I think he could be, now, if he needed to be.
bcook: Goo-tak ahjusshi is just... delightful. I thought he knew more than he let on even before this.
JoAnne: I can't figure out how he'd have known about the connection to this woman unless her name was listed as the person who brought him into the hospital that time, and even then... I think this is more his wheels churning for how he can use this info.
bcook: Seriously though, did writer-nim watch Criminal Minds? I guess psychos think the same way no matter where they are. They're motivated by the same thing I guess.
JoAnne: Normal people are all alike; psychos are all psycho in their own way.
bcook: hmm I missed this part. Watched with 98% quality subs. I need to get on darksmurf more.
JoAnne: I love this part and what's coming. I love it so much.
JoAnne: Woong Chul got cut! Now I'm mad.
I think it was just from his raincoat or his hand.
JoAnne: Also made me laugh. The gangsters are the best. And I think they're fat because they sit around and eat, and then go bust up a joint, but they don't generally run anywhere. They carpool. I think these are protection gangsters (you know, shaking down the shop owners) not drug dealer/pimp gangsters.
bcook: Part of me was like..."Run after him psycho bastid!" and the other part was all "omo! does Psycho Kid have feelings?!
JoAnne: I think Psycho Kid knows it's kind of dumb to run after a guy with knives who has just laid flat a brick building that looks like a man.
bcook: Who does that? Who makes knives that can do that? Again, human beings are weird.
JoAnne: I am sincerely happy that I have no impulses that are worse than ogling half-naked men who are young enough to be the sons I bore when I was way too young to be a mother. I think a lot of people who do terrible things probably wish they could be normal, but are unable to resist the compulsion.
It's light out but still raining. A stone faced Tae-soo is approaching the yellow-taped crime scene. Oh no ... Memories of his beautiful savior in his head, he bends down to the body bag. Pauses. Goo-tak watches with interest. Tae-soo starts opening the bag ... and sees the terrible scar on the dead woman's face. Not his! NOT HIS! No, she is standing a bit to the side, hugging her kid close. He goes over - and stares wordlessly at her for a few moments before he walks away. Still watching: Goo-tak.
bcook: Not gonna like I was clutching my duvet whispering "not now, too early, not now, too early" Goo-tak is an observant ahjusshi isn't he?
JoAnne: I like Tae Soo's inscrutable face but I LOVE his vulnerable face. And I really like him with his hair that way. Really a lot.
JoAnne: Sorry but no fucking way.
Well, if you've been wondering about this little twist, you're just like Jung-moon - who states flat out that this guy is not the murderer. He is shaking. He's scared of all the people and the attention. If he WERE the killer, he'd be very angry. Because he has killed 23 people ... just like his rival. He needs to kill one more to get to be Number 1. (so ... is he saying that Pipe Wrench didn't know about the survivor?)
bcook: Grease Lightening? Bad joke.. don't mind me.
JoAnne: I sincerely love Tae Soo. *ignores Cookie*
JoAnne: I knew Woong Chul was right. That'll be how it is, sometimes - they each reach the right conclusion with completely different paths. (And so easily that I laugh in derision about the police.)
Hardware Ahjussi runs after her, omg he is so fast! and smacks a pipe wrench over her head (so he still uses that, the asshole). Blood splatters and she goes down. He tells her she should have listened and she starts begging for her life. Why does everybody do that, he wonders - he needs to kill them. He grabs her hair and drags her along a bit, then deposits her against a car. He pulls out his scary long knife. This is the fun part, he says, and gets ready to strike.
bcook: Nooo! Not now!! Not her!
JoAnne: There's no way. If she dies, Tae Soo will go crazy.
JoAnne: You son of a bitch. I know what you did.
bcook: How could he not suspect tho? It's cruel but classic bait work. Interesting how her safety totally drives all thoughts of freedom out of his head.
JoAnne: I think back to their conversation when Tae Soo said all that he cared about was reducing his sentence, not whether more people died along the way, and Goo Tak said ok, go ahead and think that way. And then started watching Tae Soo very carefully. And I think he knew about that woman back then, maybe. But how, I don't know.
JoAnne: Well shit, yeah. You don't DO that with civilians.
bcook: I didn't really get that part (partially coz the subs weren't complete) but her laugh (to me) wasn't so much enjoyment as amused disbelief. You know? Like "jeesh really dude?"
JoAnne: I'm with you on that one. I did not think she was expressing admiration in any way.
(I noticed that too and laughed really hard. I love this show so much.) There is one vial missing - they only found 22 blood vials. The murderer is adamant though: no, he only killed 22. One less than his rival. Jung-moon throws photos of all the dead women on the table: who among those did he not kill?
JoAnne: OH SNAP
JoAnne: Straight up. And gives me some hope for Goo Tak, too, because even though he took a big chance on someone who was defenseless... he values human life. He is not just in this for his daughter, and he's (awww) teaching our boys to be better men.
(Funny though because it does look like that, but he DOESN'T.) In the confessional box, Pipe Wrench has identified the woman he hasn't killed. How funny she is dead, he remarks... he did follow her for three months, but he didn't get to kill her. He felt that somebody else was around. Who? Who is it?!
bcook: Which woman? copy cat? Somebody with knowledge of the killer's methods?! Police!! There aren't enough "the policeman did it" shows. The only one I saw that just crushed me was season 4?/3? of The Killing.
JoAnne: Dammit I was going to watch that series.
We don't get to see which woman he didn't kill because now, detectives are coming into the church. Fun is over! To Mi-young's great surprise, they drag their "Bad Guys" away. Gaaaah, the look on their faces!! They feel so betrayed ... Goo-tak explains to Mi-young that if the hunt is over and the dog days are here, it is necessary to kill and eat the dogs.
JoAnne: I did NOT realize they wouldn't stay out and continue to fight crimes. And I assumed when Commissioner said to collect them that it would be a surprise to Goo Tak, too, but I guess not.
CommentsHot DAMN. Who is the 23rd woman?! Could it be ... Goo-tak's daughter? The only one that seems to know is the murderer and Jung-moon, who was in the room with him. If it isn't Goo-tak's daughter, then was that just to alert us that there is another killer out there, one that killed exactly like two guys that are now caught? That's so creepy.
bcook: It's a club!
JoAnne: Oh goodness, imagine a group of psychos who band together to have a killing competition. Ugh. *shivers*
This episode was used very well to get us further acquainted with our Gang. Overall, it was centered on Tae-soo and his crushing guilt, but those scenes in which the guys were working to solve the murder on their own showed their strength and character really well. Overall, the red thread through this episode was the topic of trust. Only with trust can you succeed, is the message that Goo-tak tried to deliver. Only if you value human life will you become human was another. But what does that make Goo-tak?
bcook: Goo-d? Bad joke, don't mind me.
JoAnne: Actually I sort of liked that one. I think Goo Tak is pretty particular about which lives he values and which he doesn't. Which appears to be true for all of them, though.
We have heard before that he was known for his extreme methods and we got to see that in play. He is ready to gamble with human life in order to catch a killer. It went relatively well, but the risk was terribly high. A few seconds later and Tae-soo wouldn't have been able to save that woman anymore. Goo-tak has a superior view of things, but I think he is someone who has to reflect just as long as his three "Bad Guys" about the dos and donts and about the fine line between man and beast.
bcook: Because I don't want my badass ahjusshi to be completely without morals I'm going to argue that he got there about the same time as Tae-Soo. Tae-Soo was just too absorbed in beating up the bad guy that he didn't realize he was being watched.
JoAnne: Sure but think of everything that could have gone wrong - what if there were a car accident on the way? I think that 'bait' is generally used in a much more controlled environment.
One last word on Mi-young. I am not yet sure what to make of her. What purpose does she serve in this drama? She is smart, yes, and she helps solve the cases ... but what else?
bcook: She'll probably be the one investigating the big "why did everybody go away at the same time" mystery. Maybe she's our proxy? The one asking "Why?" and saying "WTF" for us.
JoAnne: I think that might be the case. But I wonder if she also doesn't have a skeleton in her closet.