JoAnne: True for me as well. I hope going through the recap helps me understand what the hell he did, because it was completely pointless as far as I could see when watching.
Patience, woman, patience!
Eleanor: It will eventually make sense Jo. Even then, we might not like it, but it will definitely make more sense.
Guess what, assholes. It was all in vain anyway. (Please prove me wrong, recap.)
It's not all in vain. I am glad that Ming Lou and Ah Cheng weren't in on this plan in the details it seems. Fricking Crazy Airplane Wang.
It's not like I don't get that, either. I do. I know what's at stake. I also know what a stupid plan looks like.
Oh Ming Tai. And Ming Lou. And Ah Cheng. I just want to give them all hugs. It's got to be infuriating to have to trust Crazy Wang when they're not exactly sure what's coming next.
Here's the thing: they wanted him to get caught so that he'd live? Who yet has survived being caught by Manchun? He would have died. You should have stopped the plan and looked for something better. But no, you'd rather live a life of romanticism and make actual bets on the outcome.
I do think that Manchun might tread a little more carefully when it's Ming Lou's little brother. They are going to have to play this VERY carefully for anyone to make it out alive though. Ugh. Stupid Crazy Wang and his crazy schemes! I'm not entirely convinced this was the only effective way.
Well that is true.
Keep calm and trust the Ming Brothers *thinks about making some T-shirts*
Manchun looks like the cat that ate the canary. You are being playyyyyyyed, sistaaaAAAAhhh. Yes I did it in Justin Chon's voice.
Oh these tricksy Ming Brothers. I'm glad we're on their side.
Because it would be impossible to deliver a fake microfilm. Dumbass.
Ah, but she'd know, wouldn't she.
I sometimes wonder what the hell is going on Crazy Wang's head. I'm starting to think that he has a brain trauma injury from his field work and I'm terrified that this plan is going to fail and that he's a traitor and that Ming Tai will die and Ming Lou and Ah Cheng as well. *bites fingernails*
Is he played? Or did he expect this? I remain unclear on whether the plan was this stupid from the start, or if it started out just mildly stupid and then snowballed into OhFuckNo territory.
Yeah. I definitely think it's one of those things that until we see all the puzzle pieces once the whole plan has been played, that we can make any sort of judgment on it. Right now it looks and feels insane.
I noticed that, too, and wanted one very much. Tell me, is the exchange on the tram the REAL exchange? Undetected by Manchun? Why would she let him wander around alone? Is she stupid?
I don't know anymore. What is real? What is fake? Is he a traitor? Is he not?
So the maid meets the mistress at the door with 'You are not going to believe this...' - but no one worries how she'd explain knowing it? Stupid.
Manchun seems to be allowing her smarts and common sense go by the wayside in favour of revenge against Ming Jing. Stupid move Manchun, or is that what Ming Lou wants?
Ah, come on! She will just claim that somebody called at the residence to tell her. That's easy! It would also be the NORMAL thing to do, call the relatives and tell them: listen, your brother has been taken in on charges of murder and espionage.
And then, she "forces" Wang Tian Feng to assist her in arresting Ming Tai. She wants to destroy the KMT Shanghai operation AND break the ties between Big Bro and Big Sis that way. Snake. If Wang thinks he's safe with Ming Tai still out and about in the world, he is mistaken! Of course he's out for Wang's blood after what he did! So he better do what she tells him.
She's still angling to get back together with Ming Lou. Like destroying his family would do it. Dumbass.
Yeah, she is NOT thinking this through. Not at all. Does she think that Ming Lou won't care because Ming Tai isn't his blood brother? Does she think that alienating Ming Jing is going to work? She really doesn't understand the Ming family or Ming Lou at all.
Yes, yes, it WOULD be a total waste if Wang died today... keep telling yourself that. Is he crushed? OR IS THIS HIS PLAN?
Crazy Wang. I'm just going to say that Liu Yijun (the actor who plays Crazy Wang and also Xie Yu in Nirvana in Fire) is incredibly impressive.
Fuck you. This makes me think you really are a traitor. If you're acting, you're doing a much better job of it than you did with Manchun, all those googly-eyed faces you made. Dumbass.
*distracted for a moment by how gorgeous Hu Ge looks* The desire I have to strangle Crazy Wang right now is rather strong.
Turn around. Turn around, shoot Wang in the heart, and walk away, let the rest of the drama be about you herding goats in Switzerland, making cheese. But of course you won't. Dumbass.
What an interesting thing to say. Trust no one. Think about it Ming Tai. Think!
And he knew where she was how, exactly?
Because Wang told him?
What Kakashi said?
And why would Wang even know? Wouldn't that look suspicious?
He said he had a person inside?
When he unearths her still beautiful face, his heart breaks all over again. Gently, he wipes the dirt away and covers her face with his handkerchief. Then, he starts freeing her abdomen to realize... it has very well been opened up. His teacher lied to him.
They just put her in the dirt? Not even a coffin? And she's what, a foot down? Maybe? Are the woods in China just littered with the bones of the dead?
Isn't the earth all around littered with the bones of the dead? Us humans, we are a warlike and bloodthirsty species. We kill so much. If we truly knew all the dead that lay beneath our feet, we might never walk around again. *now I'm crying again for Manli* What a waste of a wonderful, interesting, smart, and beautiful human being.
What did Wang gain by giving up all three of his operatives? He was really a traitor, then? There's no reason to have given up Ming Tai, otherwise. They already had the film.
I want to rewind. I want Ming Tai to never get on that plane. I want him to have never met Wang. I want this madness all to stop!
I'm not normally one to condone strapping a bomb to one's chest, but in this case, good thinking Ming Tai.
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS PLAN.
You and me both - and likely millions of other people as well.
Follow him where, exactly? To being a traitor? Come with me, and live? That kind of bullshit?
Crazy Wang, you really are completely nuts, aren't you? Are you also very sane in the midst of that insanity? I hope there is some meaning to this mad method.
I interrupt my tirade to announce that that was very cool.
Crap! Did Wang want Ming Tai to kill him? Please, someone explain this damn plan?????
Screw Ming Tai for now. What was Wang's plan? There was the initial thing, with the two books - and if that didn't work there was another plan and he was going to be in charge of it and it would be more death and Ming Lou and Ah Cheng were even more nervous about that one than the first one. Have you seen it? What was supposed to happen? WHERE IS THAT PLAN?
Yes! Where is that plan??? Make all this craziness stop!
Whatever. It better be a smarter plan than this one was.
Yeah, let's just hope it is.
CommentsWell, what can I say. This Dead Plan? Go to hell. And now they'll torture Ming Tai?! I don't want to see this!!
What purpose did Wang's death (and Guo's death and Manli's death) serve? I only see one reason for this elaborate charade - to trick the Japanese into believing they have the true codebook. Was it necessary to have three people die for this and have a fourth facing torture? It certainly did one thing, make Wang believable as traitor in Manchun's eyes!
I can buy this as a failed plan if it had stopped there. It's pretty straightforward: two books, two messengers, two times the chances of making it through. Except it's pretty clear to me that Wang deliberately got himself caught, and if that's true then he deliberately gave up both Guo and Manli, putting both code books in the hands of the Japanese. Now, if neither of them is the real code book, that's a solid plan, if cruel. But then why also give up Ming Tai? In the hopes that he'd kill you, getting caught? Nah. But if this was the plan, then the real book was with Wang all the time and he passed it to what's his face on the tram, and all is well for the KMT, relatively speaking. EXCEPT: none of the above had to happen in order for Wang to pass the book off on the tram.
I would say the plan is in fact very much working....
It might have bought him (in a perverse way) freedom to move about without fear of capture, but that could have been accomplished in other ways. If this were an Ocean's Eleven caper, I'd say Manli had the real book, and when Wang had to point out the real book in Manchun's office he somehow swapped out another fake for the real, then passed it off on the tram. I have no faith that this is what happened here, and here's why: he got captured BEFORE Manli got caught. You want us to think he got caught just in case? Nope. Because he gave her up, she didn't just happen to get caught. So I'm back to FUCK YOU YOU DUMBASS. It did not have to happen this way.
So many things I want to say. I do wish that Ming Lou had been in charge from the beginning and not Wang. I think that Ming Lou would have tried to minimize casualties but still have had the same effect. But he really does look like a traitor at this point, but I still have some niggling doubts.
It seems like Wang wanted to die after being "forced" to kill two of his students. I'm saying "forced" because it was his own plan, but he was forced by war, wasn't he. If you do it, do it right, I guess. I can respect that. It's not even that crazy. It just shows us that the lives of these people are worth very little. They're pawns in this game. And they know it.
Yes, war is a terrible thing. But this plan was stupid and accomplished nothing necessary and I hate everyone.
Yeah, I'm rather angry at Wang for making Ming Tai execute him. I really am not sure if I follow Wang's logic. Maybe because deep down I think that there were other options. And maybe not even so deep down.
And then, there's this: From all sides, the KMT made sure Ming Tai would go down too, by exposing him as Scorpion (transmitter) and murderer (watch) and then again as Scorpion, by sending him to that graveyard. But why? What is Ming Tai's role in all this? I have no clue.
Are they pissed that he was going to defect? I mean, he was marrying into the other side...It's all Trainwreck's fault! I KNEW IT.
Well we already know that Ming Lou and Ah Cheng are double agents and want Ming Tai to defect to the CPC. They're the ones in the KMT feeding the information to Division 76 so I don't think it's a matter of revenge for the KMT - it's just a way to speed along Ming Tai's disaffection with the KMT.
Okay, I do have a clue, because I've seen it to the end, so try to believe me if I tell you that it will make sense one day, for you, too.