I refuse to believe it. You don't end a show on an odd number!! It's like unlucky or something. I'm pretty sure.
I wasn't in any hurry for this to be over, either. It wasn't perfect, but it was perfect for me. Season two begins when, writer-nim? Soon? Tomorrow is not soon enough, so make our wishes come true!
And suddenly it all makes.... actually. Not really. I'm still bitter that this show is ending.
So he and Dr. Kim both lost wives to a serial killer? The same one? Was it the one that got caught earlier? No. And it wasn't Jung Moon, either. How many serial killers does that one town have at any given time. COME ON.
Tends to happen. Kinda fucked.
...... Wow. Who's the Psycho now? Also just a tad worried about the psychology of writer-nim. Choooookum
His reasoning is quite biblical, in an Old Testament kind of way. It's not psychotic, but it is harsh. And where does it end? I'm glad we generally have moved away from that kind of thinking.
I'm sure there's a logic to this somewhere...Somehow. But doesn't make sense though. Coz didn't he already set the bad guys against each other? *confused*
The very existence of this unit would be an affront to his way of thinking. These are bad men who are being given a second chance at life, when their victims will remain dead and the families of those victims will continue to feel the pain of their loss. I absolutely understand why he would hate them and the men who brought the team together. I don't support it, but I understand it.
But but who will save the chief? Coz even .... *distracted by the opening credits* Who's Bou Bou? (Minute 10.47)
Poor Nam. You know this is it for him. He worked so hard all his life and for what? A dead son and an awful end, alone. It doesn't seem fair.
Phew! Seriously. Such relief. Bwaha Oh Gu Tak still has to get in the last word eh?
Didn't we hear that there were a lot of on-set injuries? His hand, MDS's leg, etc?
Seriously, just shut up. Then, a phone call ... it's Nam. A dying Nam. Time for some philosophy about men and beasts and that important question: what they are, him and Oh Goo-tak. He also warns Goo-tak not to investigate into his death - and to live like a human. And goodbye, Nam.
Fuuuuck. The sad dying music. He will not be saved. Where does that song come from? It's like the song of death or something. Also...suddenly the phone is on speaker? Why does it look like everybody is listening?
You learn something new every time you watch a kdrama eh?
Because it couldn't possibly be anything else in the world.
*singing* "Bad Guy Bad Guy Whachu gonna do, Whachu gonna do when they come for you?" You know that was just a gratuitous fight scene to show off Tae-soo and Woong-chul's fighting. Not complaining.
I would have loved a sideline chorus of commentary on form, etc, from Goo Tak and Jung Moon.
I dunno. She's pretty obtuse. I like her watch though (proof enough that I don't care about her being sad)
Such a badly-written character.
I'm still confused about his motives. So he's wants the bad guys destroyed because...?
They are an affront to his belief system. Murderers must be punished, not rehabilitated.
Jeesh Lady!! Trust no one! It's like a simple enough commandment. If your trusted superior dies under strange circumstances... Trust No One. Doesn't she watch TV?
Season Two gets them out of prison permanently. Season Three has Jung Moon and Woong Chul working with Tae Soo as Private Investigators who also solve crimes.
Are you sure it's anger over the daughter and not over getting tazered?? I'm pretty sure getting tazered pissed him off.
Like he didn't have it coming.
Hahaha I'm sure Jo will say it for all of us. I did giggle a little when he got hit in the foot. His expression was clearly "Oh f#$K that HURT!!!"
No, I agree with Kakashi. While I may harbor a wish to be pounded by that man, it would not be with that particular tool. That tool should not be anywhere in evidence.
oooooh! Relief. Such Relief. Still not sure whyyyyy tho
Jung Moon is A GOOD BOY.
OMG really? That's why?! Jeesh! of all the convoluted crazy eye for an eye logic.
Drunks sitting around drinking have a lot of time for thinking. But you know, they're drunk... so it gets kinda weird.
I can't say they're all equally at fault. Goo Tak put him behind bars by refusing to consider any other point of view and using evidence to suit his preconceived notion, but Jung Moon wouldn't have even been under suspicion were it not for the Oh-Kim plan, so I really think the fault lies with them primarily. And Goo Tak began to doubt his belief, so took him out of prison to observe - but then Oh-Kim got involved, and again it began to look like Jung Moon did it, so Goo Tak made another decision based on faulty information. At least when Goo Tak did what he did it, he did it sincerely. Those other two used Jung Moon like he wasn't a human being.
And I say this was handled badly. I don't think he's a psycho at all. He does not fit the medical definition in any way, and that statement he just made is ridiculous because he obviously DOES have and always HAD had recognizable emotions as well as relationships we can suppose were loving.
Our Bad Ass ahjussi can't be kilt he has hyeong super powers.
At this point I sincerely believe that Nam is our one sacrifice, but I could be okay with Oh Goo Tak dying to save any one of our boys, but especially Jung Moon, as a particularly meaningful sacrifice/reparation gesture.
Butterfly's Dream"! In which they will make Oh the Fuck wake up from his dream and realize he is not an elegant and noble butterfly, but an ugly and filthy human. The method? They'll use Dr. Kim as bait. And Mi-young as a little helper again. And indeed ... Oh the Fuck has wiretapped Mi-young's phone and thus becomes privy to a conversation between her and Goo-tak, in which our Squad Leader tells Miss "I-Want-A-Promotion" that he has uncovered the whole truth about Mr. Prosecutor - but will not talk over the phone, but tell her in person. Hehe.
So, just so I'm clear. The wiretap was after Dr. Kim's capture? and what prompted the sudden suspicion of Mi-young?
I'd say if she didn't have them before the black box was destroyed, she damn sure had them after that point. But I agree that she went back and forth too easily. Bad writing for her, again.
Woah woah woah. That doesn't make sense. Because if her husband had been alive when she saved his life Wouldn't he have been with her at the hospital? Is that not when he started having feelings for her?
We had the timeline a bit wrong. She didn't save him after he murdered her husband, in a huge coincidence. She saved him, and THEN he murdered her husband. But there are some things that don't fit. One is that she always said her husband was murdered, not that he was killed by a drunk driver. You can say that's a murder, sure, but most people will say 'killed by' in that situation. And you can't really ask why, since it isn't a deliberate decision to kill that particular person. And two, that quick scene where he's walking through the hospital and sees her mourning her husband's death. What was that? Is that what made him turn himself in? How could it be? He was covered in someone's blood the night he turned himself in, so whatever happened THAT night was what made him decide to change. It's sloppy, this part.
Let this be a lesson to you kids... Always plan your plans.
These are role models! Practice makes perfect, pay attention to the details, trust your instincts (which are really just the micro-observations your brain was making while you were off ignoring things), and finally - and I can't stress this enough - be the acknowledged genius of your particular field. That's all it takes, really. Simple stuff.
When Tae-soo just walked up to the guys with that swagger *shiver* I'm wondering if the fight coordinator is this Cha dude. Their fighting styles aren't so different. That back cracking move though.
That noise. *shivers*
Blinded by bloodlust?
Per K-Drama rules, the following is true: Korean men are handsome and tall (usually), interested in fashion, emotionally damaged but secretly desirous of an all-encompassing love, geniuses at work, and severely hampered by a lack of peripheral vision.
I knew it wasn't Dr. Kim but but was really convinced it was Mi-young
Smile! You're on Candid Camera!
Was it fake? It was real evidence, it just wasn't the whole story. Mi-young suggested to them that they flee after the case is over, but of course they won't. Cause they're men. Not beasts. So they willingly let themselves be arrested after everything is over.
Only 'possible'? Hello, he didn't do anything wrong! Also ... she knows there is another serial killer is involved with this case (flashback to Pipewrench telling Jung-moon he didn't kill that one woman). That woman also wasn't killed by Oh. It's a serial killing within another serial killing. The new Commissioner thinks there's no way this can be solved. But Mi-young knows better: it can.
Cue the Bad Ass music!
So in Season Two there are FOUR mad dogs, and Mi Young is a less-crazy Goo Tak?
Someone please for the love of God cut his frigging hair.
CommentsYES! What a great show. Great story, great acting, great cinematography. No live-shoot with OCN: it pays off. I think it's safe to say this show is already among my all-time favorites and it almost hurts to say this, but ... I think it beats TEN. Since it did really, really well ratings-wise, it most definitely will get a Season 2. And since Yun Jung Hoon really doesn't want to do Vampire Prosecutor 3, writer-nim is free to do Bad Gyus 2 over the holidays. Perfect. Ah, but I'm getting ahead of myself, of course.
*Chanting* Season 2! Season 2!
Season Two or we'll send Tae Soo after you.
The show wasn't without flaws, of course not. They never are. There are many little plot holes (non gaping, I don't think?) and things that don't quite add up. We mentioned all that stuff through-out the recaps, so I guess I'll just point out some of the bigger things? Like character flaws. The weakest character was Mi-young (and I've been saying that all season long), which is a shame, because Kang Ye-won could have done much better, had she been given a bit more to work on. I get that they needed someone reasonable there to keep the cray Guys in check, but why make her so bland? The loyalty stuff with Commissioner Nam was quite interesting, but in the end, it didn't really serve any purpose either, because the character went nowhere. Her realization that Team Bad Guy wasn't to blame for the murder was ... well, simply too quick and not explained at all. A shame really ... the one thing I liked though is that OCN (once again) didn't give us any romance between the leads ... cause that would have been out of place completely.
Mi-young. *sigh* totally wondering WHY she was given such top billing going into the show when they knew she was just going to whisper at the beginning and the end of every scene she was in.
The writing for her and the misuse of the 'psychopath' bit were my two biggest complaints.
The second (big) weakness was Prosecutor Oh. As soon as he arrived, it was clear he was fishy. So it wasn't such a big surprise when he was revealed as big villain. Also, it kinda feels like cheating if you introduce the main villain so late in the game (but that way, the show kept us guessing much longer). The reveal in this episode also felt ... rushed, somehow. I would have liked our Bad Guys to uncover that truth, without Oh going on crazy-overdrive and practically revealing himself.
It's just that all along I thought they were going for a bigger reveal, built up from all the crimes along the way. Oh was completely disconnected from any of that. His only connection was Jung Moon.
As for the rest of the main characters ... 1A++. I love how each and every one of them got a backstory and enough time to actually explore that backstory. My favorite was Tae-soo (and that's no secret), but I seriously don't know what to think about his confession. What human being would kill somebody in that terrible way just because he liked his woman?! It's completely out of character for this character. I agree. Make this my biggest complaint, actually. Sure, he is an assassin - but we got to know him as an assassin with an assassin's ethics. NOT like the one that went rogue and couldn't get over the fact that everybody else changed. There is no way he was a total beast when he was younger, killed somebody in such a terrible was for such a reason and then, all by himself, realized he had done wrong, and turned himself in to repent. He went to jail to kill Jung-moon tho. Nope. He was in jail already when he was hired to do that. For me, it only makes sense if he needs to hide something very unpleasant from that woman, something that has to do with her husband. I think (I hope!) this will be explained in Season 2.
Agreed. He's totally hiding something. The way he faltered over that last bit.
I would love for this to be true because somehow, of all the things we know these men have done... killing that man for that reason seems the most horrible. Perhaps because it's Tae Soo and we've turned him into some kind of rehabilitated angel... but it was just a horrible thing to think anyone could do that.
The one topic they carried through the 11 episodes was the question of when someone is a beast and when a (hu)man - and we've seen several versions of beasts and humans. And we've seen beasts turn to humans and humans turn to beasts. The moral? Live a good life. Peace out. Over.
I learnt other things like writer-nim has a pretty twisted mind and likes the same movies that I do. That when in doubt blame hypnosis and it's always good to get on Jo's good side because she will defend the heck out of you when you're suspected of killing 15 people.
My poor good boy! I do agree with Kakashi that the core of this story was an observation of the shifting lines of good and bad within a person, and I found it interesting that my feelings towards certain characters could be manipulated over time.
I wondered often if these were people I could forgive in real life. I knew Jung Moon was innocent of the serial killer accusations and I understood how he could 'break' like he did over his parents... I might have some worries, but I'd trust him. Woong Chul I'd trust completely. Tae Soo I feel like I could trust... but I don't know if I could forget his crime(s) enough to be comfortable around him. He was the best AND the worst, for me.