JoAnne: Yeah, I can't wait to see how that works out.
Eleanor: Can we please skip this episode?
He got ugly REAL fast, didn't he? Like a cornered rat. I hope to God those aren't his real teeth, by the way.
Ah Cheng and his amazing hair - cool as a cucumber. Liang really doesn't know who he's messing with, does he? Ah Cheng will kill you and bury you in the forest so fast Liang, be careful.
That's the thing - he sent the wife away so he could play with the mistress - would his bosses care about that, or that he hasn't been calling her? I wondered if indirectly Ah Cheng was threatening her existence.
He pretends to be doing that, yes. I don't think he would ever hurt a woman and a child, but Liang cannot know that, so it works.
What Kakashi said. He's using his wife as leverage for all the other secrets that Ah Cheng possesses about Liang.
I was thinking his office was nicer than his living room at home! It is a very nice office. There, he assures the Japanese Commander that Ming Tai is "just an adopted brother". They don't need to hold back when interrogating. Not at all. And then, he answers a set of questions the Japanese have about Ming Tai and his return to Shanghai. He makes it sound like he had no clue at all, which seems too incredible to Mr. Teng Tian. All this time, and he noticed nothing?!
It's possible. What would you notice? A playboy younger brother who comes and goes at all hours? Him and how many others in his situation?
Well, he also didn't "know" for a while that Ming Tai was back. Ming Tai only came back to the family home a while after he got back to Shanghai. So it could definitely be easy for Ming Lou to pretend that he didn't know.
Well, don't forget, Ming Lou is officially in the spy business for the new government. And what kind of operation leader would be completely oblivious to living with a spy? Only a very bad one!
It seems reasonable but the way he said it had barbs, didn't you think so? TTFZ certainly did.
Hehehehe. Definitely some barbs there. Ming Lou might look all posh and businessman-y on the outside, but this one, he is a cobra ready to strike. He's kind of terrifying.
Oh yes. It was: take me away, and everything will collapse. Just you see how to deal with it!
And now I'm unable to see her as anything but Consort Jing.
Liu Min Tao. I love her to bits.
I thought it was going too smoothly. That old man is smart, and way more smooth than Manchun.
Craaaaaap!!! I don't like him! Leave the Ming family alone you horrid old man.
Outside, Ah Cheng arrives - but Teng Tian's cronies won't let him in. He's also not to leave! They're rude!
He's so deadpan. I love the little acts he puts on.
Ah Cheng - so awesome. So awesome. Dear Jin Dong, thank you a bazillion times over for making sure that Ah Cheng was a much larger role than originally written.
Longest ride ever.
Sometimes I wonder how Ming Lou and Ah Cheng keep it all together and don't just kill all these people.
Good thinking, Ming Tai.
I'm not sure I can revisit these scenes.
I grudgingly admit that yes, he is. He has terrible taste in women, but he's a good spy.
He really is. He really is. Crazy Wang might be a traitor, but he sure trained Ming Tai well. Maybe there's also something in the Ming mansion water that also turns out such good spies.
I found that speech very effective in a really understated way.
Me too. Very effective.
Gee, she sure didn't look like she was taking it easy on the old family friend... but she presents it that way to Ming Lou, a little bit.
Ming Lou. Jin Dong is amazing here.
She's batshit crazy.
Yes, she is.
She loved every minute of that. Absolutely loved it.
*hides fingers* Just thinking about this scene gives me chills.
I know it has to work, because it's THE job of the entire drama... I still think it could have been done differently. But we'll see. It's a logic fail so far, but I don't know everything.
I also think things could have gone differently but it is working. Damn it, it does seem to be working. I also do not envy Manchun one little bit for the wrath Ming Jing will unleash on her.
One thing here, I did find his attitude shift a bit jarring. Earlier he didn't care, they could do whatever - but now, he begs. AFTER hearing that his brother supposedly wanted to assassinate him. Wouldn't that have seemed suspicious to them?
I found it believable. He's playing someone who is merely an economics person with some intelligence to be the other roles they've put him in. He's showing that he is human and not fully in control (even though he is). Allowing that humanness to seep through "weakens" him in Teng Tian's eyes. He's also "going in to shock", which makes his reactions more believable. No one would believe he's a hardened spy. Contrast this with Ming Lou killing that guy in the bathroom with this spectacles.
I actually thought it was super believable. Yes, his brother hates his guts, but he is still human enough and "fatherly" enough to want to reform him.
But I do think they were both fake, and that the real one was passed on the tram. I won't revisit how that made the ENTIRE FIRST HALF of the plan pointless again.
It's definitely a plan that seems pointless. Also, Ming Tai - you are one heck of a spy.
Ah, but we do not know what is real and what is fake, do we. So I would actually say: The plan is very much working.
I was so proud of Ming Tai in this episode. Pampered and rich, and yet strong as iron and fierce as a lion. He taunts Manchun most satisfactorily, like when he tells her that ever since she became a traitor, she got uglier and uglier. It's clear to me that he will not talk, that he will keep this charade up, which makes me afraid for him... very afraid. Unless someone can convince them he knows nothing?
It's easy not to spill the beans when you don't actually know anything. His contacts are dead. He didn't even know the truth about his own plan, let alone the parts of it he wasn't involved in. He could spill some admin details about the organization, and cumulatively those are important - but he knows nothing about any operations. This does not diminish the bravery of his defiance, though.
He was amazing this episode. Amazing. I think it also did a good job conveying how pointless torture often is - and often doesn't result in reliable information.
He has already realized that they are going after his brother, I think. He knows who the HEAD of the whole Shanghai operation is - and he is going to protect him, no matter what.
Teng Tian does not fully trust Ming Lou, but he also has no evidence against him. Manchun on the other hand is simply waiting for the storm to hit (=Ming Jing). All she wants is Ming Jing behind bars, so that she has free access to Ming Lou. I must say, Ming Jing on the loose like this is scary. She is coming and I don't know what's going to happen. She doesn't know much, but she knows enough to make life very, very difficult for our boys.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to this next bit.
I really think that the Ming Brothers made a mistake to not more fully involve Ming Jing in their operations. She's a lot stronger and tougher than they give her credit for.
It's one of the best scenes in the whole drama in my opinion.
Ah, and by the way ... we still have no clue why Ming Tai needed to be captured and needed to be tortured for this Death Plan to work. This cannot only be about the codebook, right?
I know you said that for me, so that I would be patient.
It is very hard to be patient when one does not know the details of this insane plan.